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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 10, 2008 9:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: radical connection of current candidate...

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Here is another one. You must know the true story about who the klan was and what party they were in. Who the original black politicians were and even MLK... republicans, I hate to tell you this but most klan members hated republicans. Democrats did not get black vote till you bought it with new deal. Truth hurts.

As for all the violations and laws broken in the larger paragraph all are opinion. If illegal there would be hearings like clinton and nixon. I am not pretending any party is perfect, hell I think evangelicals and super rich old people are creepy, but I can kick their ass if I have tom fairly easy. Ever fight an 80 year old? Piece of cake.

Again, I am not discounting your opinion and calling you paranoid. See how you did that? I am just saying your opinions are just that, I am showing pictures and shit, I didn't photoshop them. They are multi-sourced and verified like a friggin college paper before I post them.

It is quite clear that sean penn, danny glover and others like a communist dictator named chavez who oppresses freedom and poses a threat to ours, right? Do you agree on that?

Well all the people who don't have a problem with that are voting for obama. Now do you see how that could upset someone who likes america the way it is?

It couldn't be more clear. Liberals like socialism, socialism is communism brought about without violence. It's not a stretch like jews behind 9/11 or explosive charges in tower 7 conspiracy like people like rosie believe, wonder who she is voting for?

Think about it, who is voting for obama? Do you really agree with their views? I am curious.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 11, 2008 6:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: radical connection of current candidate...

"It couldn't be more clear. Liberals like socialism",

Speak for yourself. I consider myself quite liberal and have no interest in socialism. As I've written here before: In Capitalism man exploits man, in Socialism it's exactly the opposite." It's your blanket statements like the one above and then the following "connect the dot" links you make that drive me nuts when I read your posts. You pretend to be "fair and balanced", and then bring it all down when you make sweeping and unfair declarations based on supposition. I am not a socialist. I believe capitalism is the best of a flawed set of choices. I am also liberal.

Do not lecture me on Republicans freeing the slaves. I know that already. Lincoln is the greatest president this country ever had, but if you think Lincoln would want anything to do w/the evangelical base of today's GOP and the clowns like Bush (as you graciously admitted, and I thank you for that) who have hijacked the party, then you're being disingenuous at best. The GOP of today is even reprehensible to the father of modern conservatism, Barry Goldwater, who said before his death that he was appalled at what had happened to the party and philosophy of government he championed.

You can make all the videos you want. I'm sure it's fun and a nice outlet for you. But I despise that type of propaganda for touting a political agenda or perspective whether it's right or left. You throw images at people, intersplice quotes and images taken out of context to create an emotional feel or look and you do a disservice to serious and intelligent debate of the issues. Moore did the very same thing in films like F-9/11, putting cartoon cut outs of Bush and Cheney in cowboy hats and running country western music behind them. If you have to resort to that kind of cheap trickery to make a political point, you're al;ready a step behind being taken seriously.

Now, if you really want to jude Obama as "palling around w/a terrorist" b/c he allowed a guy who planted bombs in protest (wrongly, btw, I advocate no violence) when Obama was 8 years old, to host an event to raise money for his senate campaign more than 20 years later, and after said man had been voted Chicago's citizen of the Year (don't ask me why, I'm not from there), when every political candidate has taken money and support from dubious sources.,..if you REALLY believe that equates Obama w/Hugo Chavez, then there's no point in our having these discussions.

I'm not voting for Sean Penn, or Danny Hlover, or any Hollywood idiot right or left who visits w/idiots. But it won;t stop me from seeing a Sean Penn film either, b/c he's a good actor. See the point? I don't like what Woody Allen did marrying his ex-wide's adopted daughter, but Annie Hall is still a great film and it doesn;'t make me a bad person for watching it?

See the difference? Obama is not my 1st choice for pres. Not even 2nd, 3rd or 4th...but compared to a McCain/Palin ticket...and ON THE ISSUES, he;s a far more qualifiedm intelligent and capable choice. The rest is stuff and nonsense, and I suspect that you know that.





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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 11, 2008 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tricked HTML to work, some words still missing oh well, please read

"It couldn't be more clear. Liberals like socialism",

Speak for yourself.

I am.

I consider myself quite liberal and have no interest in socialism.

Good for you, there is hope.

As I've written here before: In Capitalism man exploits man, in Socialism it's exactly the opposite.

I think redefining captialism and socialism is akin to redefining racism, unecessary and wrong. Go to cuba and stand in line for food. Fly over north korea at night and look out the window. Here are links, again this is not me it's the truth.

See any difference beteen north and south korea?

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Cuban Healthcare, nice...

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Here was where we were agreeing that both parties are hijacked and bush was a clown but ran against evil clowns, bla bla bla. It was good, wish it didn't disappear into html purgatory. I was stating that I was for guliani and was against extremism on all sides somewhere in here too. Is some kind of script attacking code in here or something?


The link in the first video of obama to chavez was obama poster>obama and in the other video the che flag on the democratic party wall. Also there is the hollywood liberals and cindy sheehan who are voting for obama hugging chavez. The associations again follow the links from one obama voter to another who support and or tolerate communist dictators. It's all in the extremism video.

This post got all fucked up, a whole section is gone but about michael moore. I did not photo shop or draw anything. Just found pictures of people hangin out with bad folks, all the moore links are gone damnit.

Moore with carter

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Moore with rangel.

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Mayor of ?

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I'm not voting for Sean Penn, or Danny Hlover, or any Hollywood idiot right or left who visits w/idiots.

Agreed! We are almost matching tempos here... and I am not voting for sarah palin's husband's sister's lunatic ex husband or haliburton, gitmo or anything not diretly related to mccain. The only question I am raising is that if these people are supporting the same person that you are supporting, maybe you should take a look at it, that's all. I don't really care if bible thumpers endorse mccain either but I almost cringe when they do for the same reasons.

But it won;t stop me from seeing a Sean Penn film either, b/c he's a good actor. See the point?

Of course, I think kevin spacey is a good actor and certainly am not boycotting dinero or anyone else democrat, nor am I flocking to arnold movies for the same reason. I never said don't watch them, just be aware that there may be an underlying message in their works and try not to let them persuade you to betray your instincts and experiences.

I don't like what Woody Allen did marrying his ex-wide's adopted daughter, but Annie Hall is still a great film and it doesn;'t make me a bad person for watching it?

Did I ever say you were? Woody allen is a pedophile but besides that I find him annoying beyond belief like a jerky boys character but it has nothing to do with his deviousness. It's still a free country, some people like soap operas and drivel like "friends" there is nothing we can do about taste.

See the difference?

No, we agree for the most part. I never said boycott anything or don't watch anything. All I said was basically what the fuck is wrong with these "idiots"? (as you put it, thanks). I think we have more in common than you realize. I think the more radical candidate is going to win and I am freaking out, that's all.

Obama is not my 1st choice for pres. Not even 2nd, 3rd or 4th...but compared to a McCain/Palin ticket...and ON THE ISSUES, he;s a far more qualifiedm intelligent and capable choice. The rest is stuff and nonsense, and I suspect that you know that.

Ok, so neither of us wanted the douchebags we got stuck with. Sounds like either the primary system is seriously flawed ( I was expecting a hillary/guliani race myself ) or we need to start a new party of moderates. Perhaps arguing is retarded and we should be organizing a valid third party candidate like ross perot or someone not commited to the bullshit special interests both candidates claim to be against but are full of shit.

I actually think hillary is way more qualified and honest than obama and think palin has more energy and potential than mccain, but again I was for guliani from the getgo and so was almost 60% of the country. What the hell happened is beyond me. I am almost thinking this is a conspiracy to let obama fail miserably or something, not quite sure how this happened.

Honestly though, I don't think more liberalism is what we need now, pelosi has enough to offset mccain, who I believe is more qualified by far, he's just old and I knew that would be a problem from the beginning.

Dead head monte used to post ridicules photo shopped pictures accusing bush, cheney and rumsfeld of having no military experience. Uhh, hello? Obama would never even join the military unless he was drafted. We are at war and I thought, gee, maybe it would be good to have someone our enemies would be afraid of and not supporting with campaign contributions. I am not saying obama is the enemy, I am saying that our enemies (foreign and domestic( would prefer taht he be the next president and that should throw up big red flags with hammer and sickle on it- joke.

Sorry for updating so many times...

Apparently you cannot just link a pic by html anymore, you have to have a target url as well as an img src? You don't have to click the pictures but it's pretty funny if you do.


This post was modified by NoiseCollector on 2008-10-11 15:59:30

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